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what is the vision for the republican party these days? >> oh, my lord, don't ask me. because and i think hunts han's right on the money. what we've heard thus far is we are against, we oppose. nothing positive, nothing affirming about how we actually move forward. now, that may change once we move into the general. but we need to hear much more about the particulars of their policies rather than what they object to on the part of the obama administration. >> are we going to hear any kind of specifics from mitt romney? i will call your attention to the presumed nominee speaking earlier this morning in south park township, pennsylvania. let's hear what he had to say. >> i represent a very different direction than this president. and i do in part because i've lived in the real economy. for 25 years, i spent my life in business. i only spent four years as a governor and i joke that i didn't inhale. i'm still a business guy, all right? >> i'm a business guy.
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i'm a governor, and i didn't inhale. i mean, this seems to be not something we've not heard, which is to say something we've heard mitt romney say excepting the i didn't inhale joke over and over again. but when questioned on specs, we never get anything, michelle. >> to a certain extent because of the specifics are extremely unpopular. he's been specific enough to endorse the ryan plan. we know in a sense what they're for is a kind of radical shrinking of government, privatization of medicare, you know, kind of gutting of the social safety net. they've been i think admirable little forth right what they plan to do to the american social fabric. he's not going to say those things on the stump because they're terrifically unpopular. >> how is that forth right? when some reporter is holding up a microphone to a closed-door session with donors and says i'm going to shut down the house, i'm shutting down hud and the department of education. >> the ryan budgets has nos specifics about the loopholes it's going to close to save all
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this mythical money. but he's been specific in that he kind of has embraced this incredibly radical document. of course, they're all hiding the details how they're going to get it done because i think people don't want this kind of social darwinism. >> it's interesting to see huntsman come out and say this, what world are these people living in. that's why he never got over single digits in the primaries because he's living in a reality-based more or less honest world where when you say you're going to cut the federal budget by these many, many billions of dollars, it has certain implications. where are you going to cut? it's, you know, he is doing the work of the rational people at this point, which you know, there are more of them on the democratic side than the republican side right now. >> there's an interesting piece in the "washington post" by steve pearl steen who talks about the impact of money in the race and sort of what it's done to, well, not only the tenor of the race but driving moderates
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away from the voting booth. before i get to that, i want to bring up latest fund-raising numbers. president obama has $104 million on hand. he raised $35 million in march. romney has 12.6. this is his campaign. 10.1 million on hand. if you're not factoring in the super pacs and rnc. >> the billion here or there. >> obama has a ten to one advantage, if you do factor in the dnr, rnc and pacs it's less than a two to one advantage. money plays a massive role in the 2012 races. let me read they excerpt. the real effect and he's talking about money goes toward knob tidesing. the real fect of negative advertising is to energize support among your ideological base while turning everyone else off to the other candidate, the campaign and the entire process. negative advertising is about altering the composition of the voter pool on election day by turning moderate voters into nonvoighters. what do you make of that, ari? >> i don't know if that's
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completely true. if that were true, we wouldn't see as much negative advertising in primaries. it is definitely clear when you throw a lot of negative messaging at an individual, the swift boat ads against senator kerry being the classic example, you can alter the perception of them, not just among a narrowet pool of voting people but against the broader electorate. the point about the mown srnls significant because these super pabs stronger on the right so far can do a lot of that will heavy lifting and people may not know where the ads are coming from and associate them less with the republicans. there's less accountability for some of the spending. >> i don't know though. i thought there was something to that contention that especially with a candidate like mitt romney who many people have problems with. it's the negative advertising against perhaps president obama if we're talking about the general election, i think does have the cumulative effect of making people sort of disgusted with the options at hand. folks who might be in the middle, swing voters and think
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you know what, politics is a dirty business. i want no part of it. >> you can't talk about negative advertising in a general election i think in the abstract. it's romney negative advertising, obama negative advertising and how they exist together in the discourse and the marketplace, and which is going to make it incumbent upon both sides to be careful about how negative to get, depending on what the other guy does. >> you see a lot of polls say we're not voting for x, we're voting against y. are those people going to be energized enough to turn out? that's a good question. are you going to lose a lot of the disaffected middle because they're simply disgusted with both parties and also we need to look at particularly the super pacs. you see the numbers of individuals who are responsible for the hundreds of millions of dollars. you're talking in the 100, 200 human beings notice united states responsible for that kind of money. so what we're turning over our process to is a very, very tiny
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elite, and that should concern the entire voting is population. >> i would point out in terms of what not just the president but what mitt romney needs to do in terms of the moves forward, there's a lot of discussion whether he'll pivot to the center, whether he's going to stay strong with the conservative message, how the white house wants to paint him as having no core or being severely conservative. as if romney can speak to american sense that it's a big moment wlts big challenges and if you can make this a big election, then he can win perhaps big instead of giving rebuts to obama's speeches, he can give serious speeches about the supreme court, the case for limited government and the threat of bankrupt and undoing obama care. >> the same thing goes for obama, as well. he's giving the correct advice to both candidates and saying it's important who the next one, two, three supreme court justices are, how you're going to get your fiscal house in order.
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all those things. that's exactly right. >> but he's actually what he's arguing is kind of that he should be making a much more stridently ideological case which is what the right has believed about every election, almost evidence is no bar. no platter how the election comes down, if republicans lost it's because they weren't conservative enough. and that's obviously going to be the critique of romney. everyone thought he was going to pivot to the center, but i don't think he's going to because he has no choice. >> he still has time, michelle. he still has time. >> right, but what is the first thing he announces? he's giving a commencement speech at liberty university. he hires this new spokesman within this kind of record of really inflammatory ma jojnistic tweets. >> he's also on the campaign trail with marco rubio. >> but marco rubio is a darling of the tea party. >> yes. at any rate, much it talk about in coming days, weeks. coming up with scandals rocking government agencies and the
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the secret service and gsa scandals have underscored a problem that's been growing in america for some time, an eroding confidence in our institutions. the cover story in the national journal highlights an indiana man who had his home foreclosed on after he lost his construction job. adding insult to injury, he received a city fine for
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overgrown weeds at his house which the bank had taken over. the article says he feels betrayed by is the institutions supposed to tect him. since 2002, confidence in the office of president has fallen 23%, trust nurlts banks is down double digits as is congress and the supreme court. confidence in organized labor is down 5%. do we build new institutions or rehabilitate our old ones? >> i think the most promising trend here is when you have the populist outrage about the institution is failure overlap with some sort off expert or technocratic view. what we're talking about all these things, just this week we're seeing is citigroup being one of several banks that's faced a real shareholder pushback on their bonuses. now, if you watch politics, you know that bonus outrage is not new, right? that was connected to the bailout and long before that, there was a lot of liberal
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groups and progressive economists who talked about the dangers of having excessive compensation not tied to performance which makes intuitive sense. if you hire a baby-sitter is, you might give them a bonus for good work and not for bad work. what will we've seen this weeking is that can shareholder groups are joining that cause and now pushing back on it. it's changed the bonus structure at some of these companies. i think there's a lot of issues you can pick from. when you see that overlap, that's when you see policy change. >> it's probably worth parsing this out. financial institutions are one sector. i was mentioning this to you during the break. this is a parity website purporting to be bank of america that has a message ta says today, it's time to acfoj our bank isn't working anymore, not just for the market but for people, our real customers. >> i read this, and said, oh, my goodness gracious. bank of america going out there. it's totally fake but it does speak to a sense that financial institutions are trying to rehabilitate themselves
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weatherspoon by force, whether by regulation, dodd-frank and so forth or by sheer understanding that in terms of public relations for public relations reasons they need pa to do something about their tarnished image. >> in terms of trust in the government institutions, that has been on a fairly steady decline for 40 or 45 years. that's not the last few years. but and i don't want to use all the cliches available like perfect storm but you do have after the economic crisis, you have this new you know hard-core cynicism about the financial institutions, as well. you know, one waits for what? for social revolution to begin. i mean, of which the tea party was maybe the first phase. >> or occupy wall street. i'll quote one more thing from the national journal. it's a vicious cycle voters don't like hard truths so
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politicians spin us. >> to me, that leaves the banks and the kind of financial system out of this. there's a huge relationship between the breakdown of trust, the deserved breakdown of trust in the banks and the kind of failures of government that led to all of this despair. the guy in the article talks about his wife being laid off from her job in the school system. there's a reason local government has been shutting jobs like crazy because of the total -- the. >> state deficits. >> not just the state deficits. the fact that the stimulus was so insufficient and the reason that the stimulus was so insufficient has a lot to do with who has decision making power within our government. likewise, the reason that obama i think hasn't been able to do more to bail out homeowners again like the one in this article. you know, it's the stranglehold of these banks and the financial industry on our xwhe that led in a lot of ways to these government breakdowns that then leads to i think deserved despair about whether any progress can be made.
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>> there is an institutional problem, i don't whether you talk about the currentlies, the schools, the banks, the government systems that is all following a pattern. not to sound corny, i talk about this in my new book. the founding fathers weren't trying to get religious agreement in this country but they were acknowledging that an ethical, moral, value-based system within a citizenry is necessary to mandate the kind of behavior so that we're not top down ruled at every turn because instead, we are going to shame, enforce their sort of behavior. and when we don't, this is the result. if you've got this incestuous relationship between government and business, so that the regulators aren't doing their job, they're not getting punished for not doing their job. they're getting hired by the institutions that are then not doing their job. it doesn't take a lot of serious enforcement measures before you get people lining up and behaving, but if you don't
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institute enforcement, you are going to get the internal corruption that simply perpetuates itself across all institutions. >> there is some implication about the american character, and i would draw your attention to two sort of different takes on it. peggy noonan this week in "the wall street journal" writes i've long thought that public dissatisfaction is about more than the economy, that it's also about our culture or rather the flat brute highly sexualized thing we call our culture. i think more and more people are worried about the american character, who we are abwhat kind of adults we're raising. >> i think when the discussion is entirely are you on the left or the right? what's your critique if you're on the left. frankly in my view, there are critiques from the left and the right to the these big issues that are correct. we have given the store away to public employees in many places. in terms of pensions and health care in ways that we can't
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afford. now we've got to of take that back. so because nobody is coming out passionately and plausibly and credibly and saying, we don't have enough regulation, we've given the story away to the public employees unions, who can say that? democrat can't and a republican can't. >> i disagree with that a little bit. first of all, i think there's a falsequiv leaptcy. if you look at the core driving factors in the financial crisis which is what people are feeling at home, it's not equally left/right. there was a clinton eras deregulation driven by business. but that was one wing of the democratic party and all of the republican party. to the character question, i also think that peggy noonan has it a little bit inverted. we get caught up on the sex scandals because they're interesting and tell ourselves we're patrolling or doing it for character. the secret service scandal is getting too much attention because it involves naked women and prostitutes and people fighting. >> and also an institution that was heretofore sort of
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untouchable, seen as the -- >> but i would argue that there was a shooting in front of the white house that involved that institution a few months ago, a serious security breech that helene cooper reported on. in my book, the shooting at the white house much more concerning than this one from a security standpoint. this one is getting far more attention because of the hookers. so i think there's that issue and we're seeing to stitch it together, john edwards go on trial today for some very salacious issues that don't have a lot to do with campaign spending whereas we talk about all the legal things you can do that aren't as interesting. i think our accountability mechanisms sometimes get confused for our entertainment. >> i will leave everyone on this. kathleen parker talking to why we get distracted with the stuff involving ladies of the night. >> i feel distracted just after that speech. >> we're wary of the big problems. just as one can sustain outrage or any emotion seasonal so long,
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how math and science kind of makes the world work. in high school, i had a physics teacher by the name of mr. davies. he made physics more than theoretical, he made it real for me. we built a guitar, we did things with electronics and mother boards. that's where the interest in engineering came from. so now, as an engineer, i have a career that speaks to that passion. thank you, mr. davies. >> the french president nicolas sarkozy is speaking at a campaign rally at this very moment set 0 face socialist candidate francois al land in a may 6th election. yesterday's first round of voting managed to produce high voter turnout despite what some are calling an unexcited
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electorate. many french said they voted for the candidate they felt would do the least harm. several who voted for car soez and an land said they did so with the little enthusiasm. the implications of this race are quite broad for the eu and to some degree u.s./european relations. >> the reason this is so important and so potentially promising is because as much as germany is besotted with austerity, it's been a disaster for the people of europe everywhere it's been tried. it's not as even if it's tough medicine that's going to work in the end. it's a human disaster and also a policy disaster because it's completely anti-growth. so in as much as this is a vote against austerity and is going to kind of end the merkozy and create breathing room for policies that favor employment, that's hugely significant. the other important thing here is that are maureen la pen, part
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of the quasi fascist. >> far, far right. >> the fact that she did so well is again, i think, and she did so well with working class voters is i think another warning signal. obviously a lot of that was about immigration but it was also about that societies cannot kind of coher if you have these incredibly brutal austerity measures. >> kirk, when we were talking about la pen's showing, sarkozy at 22.2, alland at 28.6, the la pen thing is interesting and the trend lines of disaffected voters. we're looking to our election in november. some candidates have stumped on a divisive message and two front-runners people feel apathetic about. >> la pen with almost 20% in these first round laebszs aelec a far left candidate who is essentially a commonist who got
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17%. eventual this center right, center left set of front-runners and it looks like probably the center left which is to say the socialist is going to win. but i think they're confused, and the unenthusiasm comes from confusion. yes, austerity you know as it's been imposed and performed by the germans isn't working out so well yet, but what's the choice, to have even higher tax rates than they already have which are -- >> i believe hollande is proposing a 75% tax on the highest. >> on the very highest rate. >> which is essentially what we had in the '60s. >> in the '50s, as well. >> not like this is some extreme measure. societies can flourish with that progressive tax yaks. >> holland of said this is an election that will weigh on the future of europe. that's why many people are watching us. they're wondering what policies
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which i had nothing to do with, there are health claims. there are other business interruption claims, individual wage loss claims. it remains to be seen exactly what that claims group, the new group will look like in terms of compensation. >> ken, this is ari melber from the nation. i wanted to ask a question about
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a topic we've been discussing which is the public reaction to institutions during times of crisis. you handled this and you also handled the 9/11 compensation fund which obviously a huge trauma for the nation. and you just got a pretty good clean book of health in the audit of the work that you did through this process. and yet, at the same time, you're well aware of how much mistrust there is in the government bodies that are connected to these kind of activities. so our question, my question for you is basically, do you think there's any relationship between the performance which again an independent audit said went well and the public perception which i think it's fair to say has a lot of concern and questions about the government's role in responding to these kinds of crises? >> a very good question. i answer it two ways. first, i can guarantee you based on 9/11 and the bp spill and of agent orange and virginia tech and some of these other tragedies i've been involved in, human nature being what it is,
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compensation, money, doled out by a government body or a quasi government body will never satisfy the victims. you don't look to do these jobs and expect thanks or gratitude. it doesn't happen. and it shouldn't happen. these people, these victims are traumatized. secondly, i must say, i would be wary about using the bp fund or 9/11 as a precedent. bad things happen to good people every day in this country. and you don't have these special programs. these special programs should it be reserved for that very rare situation when the people demand out of the box compensqáion programs that will otherwise aren't available to everybody else in this country. >> can i ask one question, ken? i want to call your attention to a quote of yours from last
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september when you said it's these respiratory claims from the clean-up. when i say i'm dubious, i'm wondering whether these 30 people out of hundreds are going to be able to provide any support medically or occupationally for the proposition that they're entitled to get paid. we'll see. you know, and we talk about 9/11 and the fact that the zadroga act is dealing with rescued workers developing problems on the world trade center after the fact. it is a very tricky line to jockey, is it not, in terms of health problems and the like? >> it is very develop the tricky. and i must say, one very good aspect of this settlement in new orleans that was announced last week is ongoing medical monitoring of the gulf. environmentally, biologically and the individuals who allege physical injury. i think it's important over the next few years that experts keep their eye on the health-related
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allegations down there and conclude whether or not there is some direct relationship between professed injury and the spill itself. >> catherine crier. >> yes, what about the somewhat voiceless victims? we're talking about about the elogical and environmental impact when you're talking about entire fish populations that are beginning to show very disturbing mutations as well as diminution in population, long-term sort of chemical organic activity in the waters or in the beaches or in the watersheds. where are the funds, is that an ongoing compensation pool, as well? >> yes. it the $20 billion that was set aside by bp was not simply for individual and business claims. it also includes funds available to monitor the gulf, clean up the oil where it may still remain, et cetera. and i think that there's a fine
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line here between the local gulf states, louisiana, alabama, mississippi, florida, saying the food is safe. come on down to our restaurants. visit our hotels. we are back to normal. we are looking forward to the best in gulf seafood. and other allegations coming in about we're uncertain, we're not sure about the fish, the oysters, the shrimp, and i think, again, monitoring that fine line wherever vigilant, we're watching the seafood, we're watching gulf echo systems while at the same time, there is absolutely no current evidence that the food is bad, that it's not safe, and i think that's, again, a long-te monitoring initiative to keep our eyes on the gulf going forward. >> we are also, of course, monitoring the criminal investigation to see if anybody is going to be held criminally
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accountable for the bp oil spill. ken feinberg, thank you for sharing your expertise. >> thank you. after the break, the supremç court is getting set to hear arguments challenging one of the nation's most stringent immigration laws. we'll take a closer look at the case coming up on "now."
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where they can stop people and detain them people. >> sb-1070 which directs police to check the immigration status of people they suspect being in the country illegally which is in large -- sort of amounts to racial profiling. >> if arizona is allowed to do this and the supreme court
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favors arizona which i think there's a very good chance it will, it will open the door to a lot of other states passing these kind of laws. >> eight other states have weighed similar legislation but held off and six states that passed loss, arizona, utah, indiana, south carolina, arkansas. >> there was a per swas sieve piece in the "new york times" this is morning on the op-ed page suggesting that he hopes the writer hopes that the supreme court does not, overturn the arizona law and laws like it. let the people who are passing the states passing these draconian laws reap what they have sown. already the agribusiness in places like georgia and alabama are saying this is not what we had in mind. let it play out rather than giving the anti-immigration forces the right to say oh, look at those courts again. they've flouted the will of the people. let it go.
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let it be the debacle it's becoming. >> basic judicial doctrines, the doctrine of preemption you have got to respect. if you waive it in one case you may waive it in a case you'll regret. there are constitutional amendment issues that if you sort of accede to the states because you still have people who are arguing that the bill of rights has never been incorporated into the states so all of a sudden you're conceding that. there are areas that would be a real mistake. >> i agree with you, reap what you will sow. look what's happened in alabama, farms are having trouble getting workers. no major foreign investments since they passed their own version of this draconian law. >> they arrested a german executive because he wasn't carrying his papers. >> there is a residual and actually very important sort of flipside to that which is to say immigrants both legal and otherwise are being driven underground because they have
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someone illegal living in their house or pull their children out of school. there are long-term repercussions for those that have no sort of voice in this debate that in many ways exceed the financial obligations. >> the supreme court has historically protected minority rights. their decisions in voting rights cases and the scary thing and what i talk about in my new article for the nation, we're going backwards. they're shredding misht rights. not only on immigration. you have them possibly striking down a key section of the voting rights act. we're talking about our most vulnerable citizens not getting protection from the supreme court. >> what is your analysis why that's happening? >> we have five very conservative justices. justice kennedy is a very conservative justice. he's the swing vote. five of the ten most conservative justices are on the court today and they have a very conservative activist agenda and don't want the warren court's rulings to stand. they want to roll back what the
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court did in the 1960s. >> i would add the court has been conservative for a long time. it's been a long time since we had a warren court or a court that looked to upholding the rights of the poor or minorities. one other difference is justice roberts has shown himself willing to reach out and take cases before they are considered right, before there is necessarily one of the most standard ways that a case reaches the court which is some sort of break between lower courts. what we are seeing is a hunger and willingness which the court may choose to reach out and do that. it the other thing i think connects between the two points here was the legal questions are about preemption and whether this might discriminate on race which is not allowed under the constitution. the policy question is a big rob for a state like arizona. which is be careful what you wish for. if they move to a policy towards mass deportation, that is not something that most republicans
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or businesses naturally support and something that has a huge human toll. we haven't seen ta policy practiced here. if we do, it will be something that hurts arizona. >> a federal administration that has, in fact, deported more than during the entire two terms of the bush administration. >> i just want the right to own it. >> i just want them to own it as the communists used to say, the worse the better. >> the supreme court have been taking narrow laws in other cases like citizens unites which was a narrow question and made sweeping is changes completely redefining american society and not in a good way. it is these very activist decisions but what it is, it's judicial activism pushing the country to the right which is the things conservatives are supposed to abwho are in terms of their judicial nominees. >> you look happy on television. >> ari to ari real talk. kagan is recusing herself on the arizona law. only eight justices will decide. everybody other than rick perry
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understands that if you have eight judges you can have a split decision. a split decision would affirm the lower court decision blocking the law but would not set a precedent. not so arcane when we understand the full magnitude of what we're discussing. ari, excellent scholarly you journalism. we're going to move some units of this is book on the show. coming up, president obama issues an important executive order with the aim of combating human rights abuses. details are next in the what now. [ female announcer ] did you know the average person smiles
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we need to be doing everything we can to prevent and respond to these kinds of atrocities. because national sovereignty is
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never a license to slaughter your people. [ applause ] >> welcome back. time for what will now. that was president obama this morning at the u.s. who cost museum issuing a new executive order that allows u.s. officials to impose sanctions against foreign nationals who use cell phone track and internet monitoring to carry out human rights abuses. the president has been under some heat lately specifically with regards to syria. taking action or not taking action there and, of course, sudan which has erupted in the last few weeks. i wonder what you guys make of this. to me, that last line there, national sovereignty is never a license to slaughter your people is an interesting i think sort of subtle dig at the russians and chinese who frequently claimed national sovereignty prevents them from intervening in any sort of human rights conflict. but this technology certainly is a step forward or this order regarding technology is
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certainly a step forward. >> what else concerns me, there's such a fine line because you go to britain and you watch the riots when they went in and the government taps into all the cell phones or the b.a.r.t. exchange in this country where they basically shut down wireless and events followed. nothing, of course, i'm saying that corresponds with what's going on in the middle east, but there is a real fine line as you begin to open this up for prosecution of bad guys to how much then are we opening up to governments that may, in fact, be good guys perpetuating various rights abuses. >> the civil liberties question is always at root whenever nor monitoring or government monitoring of private lives is on tap. speaking of government involvement in private lives, the prosecution and defense are giving their opening statements in the trial of former presidential candidate john edwards accused of illegal little using campaign contributions to help him hide affair. what do you make of it, ari.
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>> the indictment is very weird because the so called campaign contributions were not actually ever made to his campaign. they went from a private donor to a mistress. the fec generally says you can't take your personal spending which meeting on your kids or your mistress and count it as a campaign expenditure. nobody likes john edwards but even the conservative national review criticized the entire prosecution. it tells us something that we're seeing the government spend resources on this kind of sex prosecution and not some of the other allegations around campaign spending in this country. >> real hunter, michelle goldberg, the name that won't leave anybody's lips. >> probably the only person until america or 3% of us who feel really, really bad for john edwards especially because he brought it on himself. just to imagine kind of having destroy your life on that scale through your own volition, i can't imagine anything more excruciating. >> we'll go to our last piece of the day. to you kurt andersen, walmart
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shares fell as investors reacted they trying to bribe mexican official officials and then tried to cover up the corruption. >> a shows why we still need institutions like "the new york times" that can do these giant investigative journalism. the fact they knew about it in this very active anti-corruption unit in their company six years ago, three, go online, go to walmart, look for eduardo castro-wright. he's disappeared from their website even though he's still a vice chairman. >> an interesting turn of events. thank you to ken, ari, michelle and catherine. i'll see you back here noon eastern when i'm joined by virginia attorney general ken cuccinelli, new york deputy mayor wolfson, c.j. dion, jodi kantor and politico's maggie
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